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		<title>Audio: Speaker Placement Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the longest time I have had my floor-standing loudspeakers too close together. The single best test to check your speaker placement/stereo imaging is to play some live music, preferably music captured in a room with echoes. If your speakers are out of alignment you will know it and all you have to do is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the longest time I have had my floor-standing loudspeakers too close together.  The single best test to check your speaker placement/stereo imaging is to play some live music, preferably music captured in a room with echoes.  If your speakers are out of alignment you will know it and all you have to do is keep on moving them around until you get it (<em>remember to turn off all equalization/room correction and distance settings</em>).  It will sound as if the echoes in the recording are arriving too early and clashing all over the place.  You should be able to close your eyes and imagine all 4 walls of the room without any issues.  </p>
<p>One thing to look for is when higher pitched sound comes primarily from one of the two channels then appears on the other in a delayed fashion.(<em>this can also appear as the in-phase audio breaking imaging by &#8216;bleeding&#8217; towards one of the speakers when it gets loud however this is harder to determine because the artist may just be moving around.)</em>  The Imaging should never be broken like this, if you consciously aware of the delayed reflection then your speakers are too close together and it would be a good idea to use that sample to play over and over while you make adjustments. </p>
<p>I have two CDs you can try out: 1994 Patrica Barber &#8216;Cafe Blue&#8217; PREM-737-2, Piano Collections Final Fantasy VII (IMPORT) KO-99030, and Yo-Yo-Ma &#8216;Songs of Joy &#038; Peace&#8217; B001BN1V8U.  All speakers are different and your speakers will define any toe-in.  Mine are minimal toe-in and at the summits of an equilateral triangle +- 3&#8243; and about 130&#8243; apart(this is staggering if your not used to it because the center seating position doesn&#8217;t even feel like your in front of them anymore).  Some day I will explain how toe in changes how your music is perceived.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Placement for Music is different than TV/Movies.  MultiChannel music and TV/Movies is designed for toe-in.  Music, on the other hand, works best with little or no toe-in.</p>
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		<title>What Denon really means&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://sybersnake.com/2008/08/22/what-denon-really-means-by-stereo-directpure-direct-and-bass-management/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note: This post is simply a set of observations I&#8217;ve made since I purchased my new Denon AVR, they are no way Denon-backed facts.  I&#8217;ve tried to verify some of these things with them but no luck so far. It seems by default, my Denon Integrated(Amplifier) seems to think that correct default settings for &#8220;Stereo&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: This post is simply a set of observations I&#8217;ve made since I purchased my new Denon AVR, they are no way Denon-backed facts.  I&#8217;ve tried to verify some of these things with them but no luck so far.</p>
<p>It seems by default, my Denon Integrated(Amplifier) seems to think that correct default settings for &#8220;Stereo&#8221; is, &#8220;Large&#8221;(for the Speakers, this is correct), &#8220;Yes&#8221;(for Subwoofer), &#8220;LFE+Main&#8221;(for Subwoofer Playback), and &#8220;40Hz&#8221;(for Crossover).</p>
<p>The problem here is that LFE+Main freakin sucks.  Why do I want double-bass?  Not to mention its coming from 3 directions in 2 different phases( the Subwoofer is usually set to phase 90) and 3 different distances/delays.  All good quality subwoofers will provide High Level and Low Level input for Left/Right to use with the internal crossover.  This works great, however the sub is creating audio based on the distance information for the Left/Right channels(if your Integrated AMP has distance delays)&#8230; thus creating a somewhat delayed/shifted bass stereo image because regardless of where the subwoofer is it cannot be in two places at once.</p>
<p>So we need the crossover inside of the Denon Integrated.  Well, I don&#8217;t want &#8220;double-bass&#8221; so we&#8217;ll change &#8220;LFE+Main&#8221; to &#8220;LFE&#8221;.  Thats it right?  Well, you won&#8217;t get anything out of your subwoofer.  The trick here is setting your &#8220;Large&#8221; speakers to &#8220;Small&#8221; with the crossover still at 40Hz.(I don&#8217;t know why that is the lowest it will go since I know many people who have Floor-standing speakers that are very able to hit 40Hz, as mine are.  This 40Hz wall seems to be in place even when set to &#8220;Large&#8221; unless you do not have a subwoofer installed or are running in Direct/Pure Direct mode where all Bass Management goes out of the window.</p>
<p>So if you want to take advantage of your Subwoofer for L/R @ &lt;40Hz, you will have to set your &#8220;Large&#8221;/FullRange/Wide Front Left/Rights to &#8220;Small&#8221;.  My speakers will hit 40Hz at -3db so using Direct/PureDirect will not help me much unless I don&#8217;t want to use the subwoofer.  Denon&#8217;s manual defines Direct/Pure Direct mode as &#8220;This is the mode that recreates the original sound most faithfully, providing extremely high quality sound&#8221;.  That may be true!  Somewhere else they also say that it disables &#8220;Tone controls&#8221;(Bass/Treble).  What they neglect to mention that there is NO Bass Management(Large/Small is Bass Management along with Crossovers) at all in these modes.  So your/my crappy surrounds will try to play 20Hz if your movie calls for it.</p>
<p>If you want similar results during normal movie playback, you will have to set your Fronts to Small in the main speaker config menu with a crossover set to 40Hz( or whatever the lowest your speakers can hit, my crossover should be at about 30Hz, and your amplifier will allow you to choose &#8212; a Small with a 40Hz crossover is the EXACT same thing as a Large but the AMP seems to completely ignore &lt;40Hz when set to Large &#8230; go figure.)  The default Bass Management rolls off the Low Level by -12db and the High Level by -24db.  So a Large speaker will be -12db @ 40Hz when not in Direct/PureDirect and a Small will be -12db @ user set crossover.  The High Level crossover is only used if you have Bi-Amp able Front speakers.</p>
<p>I currently have my default config/stereo set to Small @ 40Hz crossover, however I normally listen to 2ch audio in Direct/PureDirect in order to get the most out of my floorstanding speakers.  I also have the &#8220;distance&#8221; of my L/R manually increased by 0.4m(<strong>UPDATE:</strong> +0.6m seems to make the speakers disappear) &#8212; seems to widen the &#8216;sweet spot&#8217;.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Lfe+Main works fine if the system is calibrated and distances are measured correctly.  You also have to make sure the sub is set to 0 degrees phase. ( otherwise you will notice a huge problem in SQ )</p>
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